Ruination of Lesya Toumaniantz - Heavy Face Tattoo

[omphalos]

LOL leave it to Rouslan to put LilLurker in his place. I've said it once and I'll say it again - I wish LilLurker would get banned. His negativity has no place in this forum. Rouslan, best of luck to you and your wife. I wish you great happiness in your future together.

No offence man, but at least he posts stuff. Yo All I ever see you do is suggest that he should be banned. A bit of negativity is allowed if you also make constructive contributions, but looking at your posting history I can't really find many.

If you think LilLurker is guilty of a "bit of negativity" then you should probably join him in leaving the board. His "posts" are generally terrible and in no way counterbalance his overwhelming negative and discouraging comments to other posters.

[LilLurker]

If you think LilLurker is guilty of a "bit of negativity" then you should probably join him in leaving the board. His "posts" are generally terrible and in no way counterbalance his overwhelming negative and discouraging comments to other posters.

If you want to talk about me then start a thread in the relevant subforum. The title of this thread indicates the subject matter that's supposed to be discussed.

Edit: Thanks to those sending PMs of support

[omphalos]

If you think LilLurker is guilty of a "bit of negativity" then you should probably join him in leaving the board. His "posts" are generally terrible and in no way counterbalance his overwhelming negative and discouraging comments to other posters.

If you want to talk about me then start a thread in the relevant subforum. The title of this thread indicates the subject matter that's supposed to be discussed.

That's the whole point Lurker - the title of your post is crude, offensive and just plain stupid. This thread has no place on the board.

[megabucket]

It's crude and provocative sure, but then Rouslan himself is occasionally something of a crude provocateur.

When I heard about Lesya's tattoo the first thing that came to mind was "Uh oh, a media stunt." I apologise to Rouslan and his wife if I was mistaken in that regard, but I think everyone here can understand why I thought it.

Tattoos are art and there is plenty of shit art in any medium. We should not all feel forced to be positive about things which we do not like because we risk causing offence to the overly sensitive. Anyway, lurker is typically negative about some old fat and downright ugly models that keep getting posted. If mature overweight women float your boat then that is all well and good, but don't expect the rest of the world to think that they are beautiful.

[nokke]

The world is cracked with judgmental idiots.

1) It's her freedom to do what she wants, and mine to do what I want.

2) Whoever comes and judges our private life is a piece of shit.

3) There are many pieces of shit.

4) Still, as pieces of shit, they much rather insult from far away. The adress of my shop is public and I haven't seen any of the so many pieces of shit that criticize me from far away come and tell me anything face to face. Does it means that judgmental pieces of shit are also bollockless cunts?

5) You didn't knew her before. Now, you know her. That tattoo made her already world famous. I'm going to fully suit her. I think with the tattoo she's beautiful. I love to look at the tattoo when we are in bed together. I also have her name on my face.

You see judgement of private life, I see judgement of what was a public news story. It's not like he sought you out to tell you his opinions. As for the tattoos; each to his own, but if you can't stand people commenting on you for something peculiar you did to yourself, you shouldn't have done it, let alone told the world about it.

Example: If a girl gets huge breast implants, she must accept that a lot of guys will talk to her tits and not her face.

On a mainstream webiste, lillurker, your reaction would be just ordinarily stupid. On this website, dedicated to bodymod, dedicated to the freedom to express yourself with your body, your judgmental bullshit is not only extremely stupid but also highly uncalled.

If modified people now need to discriminate the "good mods" from the "bad mods", what can we say as a community to those who blame mods as a whole thing? So, are you an idiot AND an asshole, lilLurker? Certainly.

Like its said before, this is more of a perv. site than a "express yourself through body mods" site. And why shouldn't LilLurker be allowed to express his opinions on bad taste? Should we only comment if we like what we see? Maybe we should call this the "PiercedAndButtKissingForum.com" then?

That being said, I can understand if you feel the need to vent after what I'm sure is a case blown out of expected proportions. Attacking other peoples thoughts is not the way

LOL leave it to Rouslan to put LilLurker in his place. I've said it once and I'll say it again - I wish LilLurker would get banned. His negativity has no place in this forum. Rouslan, best of luck to you and your wife. I wish you great happiness in your future together.

No offence man, but at least he posts stuff. Yo All I ever see you do is suggest that he should be banned. A bit of negativity is allowed if you also make constructive contributions, but looking at your posting history I can't really find many.

Be carefull now, megabucket, or omphalos might start accusing you for beeing one of LilLurkers other user accounts, which is being used in some evil way to take control over the universe.

The only thing LilLurker has done is to share his view on certain mods. He might use strong words, but he does not go about calling other people with different opinions pieces of shit etc. Grow up!

[omphalos]

Well said. I agree as well. Will no longer be feeding the trolls from now on.

[Rouslan]

Nokke...

"You see judgement of private life, I see judgement of what was a public news story."

That's an interesting point. From where exactly did it start to be a "public news story" exactly? Who decided that? Is it legal?

I didn't decide to make it "a public news story".

As a matter of fact, I live in a country where the right of the press is without limit. There isn't any way for me to counterbalance belgian press. They can publish what they want and tell what they want.

I can't do anything against the fact that most media worldwide just copy-paste about my PRIVATE LIFE without asking me the right to talk about my life, without even coming to get information or an interview, or asking for it.

Most clever people know what media are worth, how much they act as a support for governents (that is, people that collect "taxes" to pay their huges salaries) and "educate" people on what's good and what's bad (don't get visible tattoos, sheeple, that's against the system).

[nokke]

Nokke...

"You see judgement of private life, I see judgement of what was a public news story."

That's an interesting point. From where exactly did it start to be a "public news story" exactly? Who decided that? Is it legal?

I didn't decide to make it "a public news story".

As a matter of fact, I live in a country where the right of the press is without limit. There isn't any way for me to counterbalance belgian press. They can publish what they want and tell what they want...

I find it kind of hard to believe that you didn't want this to go public, considering this...:

As a tattoo artist I’ve made more covers, TVs and media coverage than anybody else in the world. CNN, Sky, Fox, I made them all. Considering that there isn’t such thing as “bad advertising” or “good advertising”, but just advertising, I’m part of what makes tattoos more popular, because seing more and more tattoos in the media will attract more and more people to tattoos.

...was posted in your name (bi note: I would be surprised if Kat Von D hadn't had more coverage than you )

My thinking is that the press got a hold of it one way or another, and I highly doubt some journalist just happened jo walk in on your tattoo session. Add the fact that the pictures I've seen have been marked with "lesya by rouslan as seen on bme.com" and I think you might have uploaded your private life to bme, which is not so private. My only advice is that you can't realisticly bead the press, for now you'll just have to keep your head down (not bother to comment on the case, where ever it might be) and think about your privacy routines more carefully the next time you do something spectacular

[megabucket]

Hear hear!

[Rouslan]

Nokke, believe it or not, I never did anything else than post a couple photos on Facebook. Which I do for a lot of the tattoos that I do.

I'm not HAPPY to be in the media. I just state things as they are. Those words are not something I'm happy with, or even sad. I don't give a fuck. I just point those facts for those of my colleagues that keep on repeating/thinking that my acts are bad for the tattoo/bodmod community.

Four years ago, with Kimberley, I did nothing with the media. This time I did nothing again. My face and my work attracts them. I guess I will keep on working the same direction in the future, I guess my face will still be the same, and I guess I will end up again and again in the media. They need freaks to "educate" the masses.

Up to you to listen and believe more to what they say about my life, than to listen to me.

[Rouslan]

For BME, I know Shannon Larratt for 15 years, by mail. I respect his work, I respect his involvement for our community, and when he asked me to post some photos that i put on FB and to tell a story about our encounter, I told him he was free to do so, as long as history was positive.

[frances]

rouslan

i would suggest tattoing her mouth lips black to coordinate the awesome lettering

have you started on her bodysuit design yet ?

[Blademaker]

Rousian, first let me say "awesome work". I don't know the details of how, when, or what of your relationship, nor do I care. Thanks for the pics, please don't be dissuaded from posting more pics of your lovely bride. This post has gotten way to charged, and frankly the title is insulting, can't we leave the politics and insults out of here? If you don't like what someone is doing then don't post about it?

Rousian, I and many others would appreciate a separate post started by you of pics and information on Lesya, without the negative atmosphere of this thread. Thanks for posting.

[Rouslan]

Blade, I understand what you say, and I understand some normal people can also be found on this website, but :

1) my pictures would be watched mainly by the people you have mentioned,
2) those people are irrespectul, debilian and pervert lurkers,
3) my photos would be used by them to masturbate in their hopeless existences so ...
4) I will keep them private. I will keep living my life, my reality.

But I understand that for the most, those people are just jealous. My reality, the life I've built is just plain fantasy for the average lurker of this website, and sometimes goes even beyond those fantasies.

I live my dreams, my wife lives her dreams, we will build our paradise on earth, and I highly doubt that any of the idiots who came to display hate against us, or me, will ever achieve that kind of happiness on earth.

[Killeroy]

Wow. I just can't believe all the reaction to this. The tattoo is very extreme, but I see people with extreme tattoos all the time. None of them get this amount of negative attention.

It's to be expected that many people won't like it. I'm just shocked at how vocal and passionate the majority is.

For example Katzen http://www.999eyes.com/katzen.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; who was tattooed long before it was as accepted as it is today, did quite a lot of public events and she was featured on some TV programs. Yet the media stories I read were very positive.

It makes me wonder if the outrage is less about the tattoo, and more about the demonization of Rouslan.

Also, Rouslan your other work is really really good. It's just a shame, you are recognized for 56 stars, and your name on you wifes face. Keep up the good work.